![]() ![]() Check your installation.' 1> & 2. Check your installation.? Check your installation.' 1> & 2. Check your installation.. Distro hopping all the way back to Windows XPJohn M. Brown: I do have an ISO of Ubuntu 7. Nautilus is about as simplified and dumbed- down as the Mac Finder. Thunar is a mild improvement but not that much better. Konqueror is the best Linux file manager that I’ve yet found. I’ll get at least another year out of XP before it becomes decrepit. I knew somebody who only upgraded from 2. Vista last year, so I might get some good times out of XP until at least 2. Maybe by then your average Linux distro won’t need so much tinkering out of the box. Directory does not exist or has wrong permissions. Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. Fedora Core 4 x86-64. Fedora italia; mageia italia. Ask questions about Fedora that do not belong in any other forum. FedoraForum.org > Fedora 23/24 > Using Fedora. View Full Version : Using Fedora. Could not start ksmserver. Check your installation. KDEInit could not launch. If the Mac Finder wasn’t as retarded as Nautilus, I could modify OSX’s keyboard shortcuts, and Apple released a Mac about as powerful as the i. Mac but without an integrated screen such that I could upgrade my own video card and hard drive, I could buy a Mac tomorrow. Path Finder is nice but it can’t replace the Finder completely. One shouldn’t be limited to the perpendicular pronoun when writing of one’s Linux experience. If things are unintelligible out of the box and require endless tinkering and editing of config files, then I think it’s OK to make broader statements. If Compiz is beta software then why do most Linux distros feature screenshots displaying Compiz so prominently on their home pages? Seems a bit dishonest to me. Bait people with dazzling eye- candy then let them down when they realise that it doesn’t smell like roses. I did know that Linux, per se, refers only to the kernel, but most people simply use the term to describe the operating system as a whole, as did I in my post. If Linux is an elite product that requires patience, then the users who keep saying it’s fit for their grandmothers need to censor themselves a little. Jeremiah: Maybe these distros aimed at making Linux easier for new users needs a “readme” on the desktop that explains all these things that have been turned off by default. Having to hunt around for a fix that should be there by default simply adds to the frustration and the impression that Linux is crap. I definitely didn’t uninstall xinetd because I would then have had to re- install the package to get kdeinit working. Doug Jenkins: If it wasn’t for kdeinit being busted because of the uninstallation of a video player, I would have been left with a better impression. Compared to open. SUSE and Kubuntu, PCLOS is miles ahead, though. Gary: I remember reading a review of Linux Mint that questioned the inclusion of Envy by reason of it being deprecated? I don’t know the whole story but I did notice the icon on the menu. CHECK YOUR INSTALLATION. KDE error: Could not start kdeinit. Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. Didn’t fully understand what it was for – “Envy” isn’t particularly self- explanatory : -)Mark: I’ve used Windows 3. OSR2, Windows 9. 8, Windows 9. SE, Windows NT 4. Workstation, Windows 2. Professional, and Windows XP. All of them had video drivers that worked easily and were a breeze to install and all of them (apart from Windows 3. Nautilus seems to think is too advanced for a user to have).
Paul: I agree that Linux Mint is a very fine system. I just don’t like GNOME much, especially the retarded file manager and the desktop icons that you can’t put near the edge of the screen (which I do so that I can still see important desktop icons when I have windows open). ![]() Robert Pogson: You are kidding, right? As for Debian, I remember dabbling with it back in the bo/hamm/slink days and dreaming of woody, which took an eternity to come out. Debian are far too slow to release upgrades and their fundamental opposition to anything that’s not GPL says I won’t be having much fun with that distro! So the default X server won’t work and you have to know to go an install xserver- glx? This is my problem with Linux. There’s too many cryptic package names you have to know to get things to work that should be done for you by the control center. It’s almost like the distros of old, where you get menu icons for all sorts of programs whether they were installed on your system or not. It’s your problem if you didn’t know you had to install something that the GUI leads you to believe is as easy as one or two clicks. Laryssa: I could probably settle into one distro within a week, but I was curious to see if any of them were decent out of the box. The answer is an emphatic “no”, unfortunately. They all require a degree of tinkering and editing config files and no matter how many reply here saying “have you tried distro XYZ” not one of them are going to be any better or worse in the long run. Jon: Linux (and the Mac) would be more popular if their respective creators were cognisant of people’s “comfort zones” and at least made it easier for newcomers. Having to go to the lengths I’ve gone to get simple things going isn’t going to coax too many people out of their comfort zones (until there are no further updates for XP and it becomes a trojan/spyware/virus magnet more than it currently is). ![]() Bystander: As I’ve stated before, the vanilla Ubuntu isn’t going to be my Linux distro because the GNOME philosophy is far too Mac- like in that the user shouldn’t be able to customise things as much as he or she can in KDE. If people want to live in a default environment, good on them, but why should preference screens be so spartan for people that prefer things a little different? Fred: From what I understand about Gentoo, it’s more for people that prefer to compile everything, so a distro based on the . I can add/remove things in XP all the time and still get reboot and log into my desktop every time. Mark Veltzer: I have about 1. Windows and it works fine. Sure, I begin to feel “dirty” after six months or so and roll- back to a nicely- configured Acronis image, but that’s just my preference. The number of comments I’ve read that say upgrading a Linux distro isn’t recommended too widely cancels- out any perceived downside to me restoring a disk- image with similar frequency. Stephen: The KDE folks will lose any chance they might have had to defend KDE4 if they release it as 4. KDE 4. 0. 0 != KDE4”. As far as I and the rest of the world are concerned, a point- zero release should be fairly feature- complete but not necessarily bug free. From what I’ve seen of the 2. CD, it’s crap. If the Linux community spent less time creating icons and more time making their products usable, the world might just be a better place. Maarten Kooiker: At the end of the day I’m not all that fussed on extra eye- candy but I wanted to see how easy it would be to get it to work, mainly because Compiz is the first time my brother has even considered Linux. Since most distro’s are whoring out their releases via Compiz- riddled screenshots, it’s only fair for me to judge them by it. Robert: If you enjoy having to pore over lengthy instructions to get simple things working, if you are happy to work for your computer rather than having it work for you, then good on you. Switcing operating systems for most of us isn’t going to happen if it means wasting time with documentation written by every man and his dog to get something to work that shouldn’t be so troublesome (read: open. SUSE’s ATI driver install page). Rich: I have looked at Ubuntu’s live CD and didn’t like it. GNOME is for idiots happy to do things the way Migual de Icaza likes them and not the way the end user might prefer. There’s not much to complain about because there’s not much there. I’m guessing that GNOME must have half the number of configuration options as KDE, which doesn’t have to be a bad thing; users don’t have to bring up preference dialogs if they’re happy with the defaults, so why have so few options in them? Ryan: Or idiots such as yourself happy to drink the simpleton’s desktop environment of choice. I’ll bet that if/when you’re a Windows user you’d think that “The Internet” icon was just that, the internet, because it was on you desktop already. Just because you’re happy in the wasteland that is GNOME, doesn’t mean the whole world will be. Even Linus Torvalds himself says GNOME is complete crap compared to KDE, so it’s not just me. Matt K: Uninstalling Real Player or Adobe Reader in Windows does not hose my system. One shouldn’t expect the uninstallation, using the package’s own uninstallation information, to completely break the graphical user environment. By the way, I’ve worked in I. T. I’m not an idiot, I simply have a low tolerance for crap that breaks easily when it shouldn’t or for crap that’s needlessly complicated when there are existing systems that aren’t so. JDW: At the end of the day I’m really not going to be using the spinning desktop cube, but I wanted to find the perfect distro with this option because my brother has finally shown interest in Linux because of it. So I thought, hey, I might finally be able to switch to Linux and not feel ashamed of it when my brother sees that having to get some simple eye- candy working (that most distros are keen to show off, by the way) actually turns out to be a nightmare. I’m not going to use something myself that I’m forever going to have to apologise for or make excuses for. Colin: Vista isn’t getting within a mile of my PC, either. But I can see the writing on the wall,though. Apple have got about a year release a headless and user- upgradable Mac mini tower with a Finder and keyboard shortcuts that aren’t retarded, or Linux has about the same time to polish things a bit. JT: Nobody on #kubuntu, #linuxmint, #suse, or #pclinuxos- support mentioned Envy. It was only in a review of Linux Mint that I heard mention of it. And if Compiz is beta software then why do all the distros try to hawk it as a way of getting people to switch to Linux? Changing your theme in Ubuntu does not make Nautilus any less retarded, I’m afraid. Rob: I don’t suck at computers, but Linux does suck at doing a good job of handling new users.
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